... Yes. And not only that same with the NFL players, the MLB players, the NBA players, we had to deal with all the leagues. Yes. Willard, I know that. So we not only. Yeah. And Ray had alluded to this. We had to go to the sub licensees of these publishers and explain to them why, why it would be worth their while to give permission for EA to distribute such and such or two games to give us, you know, their basketball games, for example, or are the golf games from EA, for example. Yeah. So that's that's really true.…

... And I was the third party manager and I worked for a guy named Shinobu Toyoda, who became a board member of Sega channel. And I left Sega to make golf games with a Japanese company called T&E Soft, technology and entertainment software. ...
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... How do you get recruited for that? Well, I'll take that for starters. I did work for Sega before the Sega channel. I worked for Sega from 1990 to almost, I guess, the end of 91. And I was the third party manager and I worked for a guy named Shinobu Toyoda, who became a board member of Sega channel. And I left Sega to make golf games with a Japanese company called T&E Soft, technology and entertainment software. And I worked at T&E Soft making games because I love to make games. And we made golf games. And that venture went for two years. And then that venture basically began to fizzle out. ...