At&t calling card and of course these calling cards they're stolen And then you dial anywhere in the world and eventually the card will die because at&t or the owner will realize what's going on and um Then you just contact your group and say I need another calling card Let's talk about your journey into cortex and you mentioned that you you're most known for that then So I mean, how did you first join a group then and how did it lead to you getting into cortex? ...

You know people do the copying at school and if you want to get more stuff You tended to do what people would call mail trading. So you'd be sending, you know, a jiffy bag full of a dozen discs or so To some contacts somewhere else in the country and they'd be sending you stuff from their list So you'd be keeping this up-to-date list all the time of what you had in where software and you'd get the stuff relatively quickly But it would obviously be a week or two after it you've gone on bulletin boards and I…
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... That sounded really exciting But no way I could come into my parents to fork out a modem for me to connect to them at that stage I mean, what did it start for you? Then you journey with with going online. Well, it it Was a logical progression to be honest You know people do the copying at school and if you want to get more stuff You tended to do what people would call mail trading. So you'd be sending, you know, a jiffy bag full of a dozen discs or so To some contacts somewhere else in the country and they'd be sending you stuff from their list So you'd be keeping this up-to-date list all the time of what you had in where software and you'd get the stuff relatively quickly But it would obviously be a week or two after it you've gone on bulletin boards and I remember one of my contacts. I Even remember his name. Let's just say Derek Derek was not my best contact but he He told me one time that he could get stuff from bulletin boards and I said, you know What is this and and he said well, you know I've got a modem and he had a two for modem 2400 and it was just yeah It was incredibly slow, but he could get particular titles but it would take him a lot of effort to do so and I sort of got chatting to him about this and he ...